I'd make love with my husband, snuggle up with our kids and a pint of ben and jerry's (each!), listen raptly to endless talk about video games &Jo-Jo's Circus, and make sure that the last thing I saw in this world were the faces of the people I love.
Sara Annie
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The last day...
by Quentin in.
if this were the last day of your life what would you do?...
i would spend the day at the zoo with my grand kids
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Tom Cruise (Scientologist) vs. Brooke Shields (Postpartum Depression)
by Scully innot what they expected; moms with postpartum depression overwhelmed with feelings of guilt, worthlessness.
the ottawa sun .
thu 28 jul 2005 .
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Sara Annie
As far as Scientology and their wild claims along with some truisms, I would counter that even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
True. But you won't find me looking to that clock to see what time it is...
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Tom Cruise (Scientologist) vs. Brooke Shields (Postpartum Depression)
by Scully innot what they expected; moms with postpartum depression overwhelmed with feelings of guilt, worthlessness.
the ottawa sun .
thu 28 jul 2005 .
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Sara Annie
Even if Tom Cruise had some good points against psychiatry, he is coming off a some sort of nut case. What I understand about Scientology, they are no better than any other cult.
Scientology is a brand of wacky that makes most JW doctrine look sane, well reasoned, and perfectly legitimate. One of the fundamental tennants of Scientology is that psychology is nothing more than a pseudo science, and there is absolutely nothing that can or should be treated by ANY branch of psychiatric medicine. Of course, one of the other fundamental tennants of Scientology is that long ago a man from another planet gathered up all the negative inhabitants of his world into giant nets, brought them to earth and placed them on two volcanos and then detonated each group with hydrogen bombs rendering them into atmosphere dwelling souls called 'thetans'.
The problem with listening to anyone who espouses the ideology of a high-control organization is that even if some of what they say actually seems to make sense, it's very difficult to overlook the fact that absolute craziness is being asserted as fact right alongside the things that just may be true. It's like saying 'This book on Egyptian Architecture has some wonderful historical references and fascinating information--if you ignore that the central theme of the book is how an alien race from the planet Xantho 5 were the original builders of the civilization."
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How Would You Prove That JWs Are Frauds?
by minimus injws are supposed to interested in performing a "lifesaving work" but the truth is they are more interested in finding not-at-homes than actual people.
and if they do find people, chances are that getting this most important message out to them will not occur because, unless they're invalids, they'll be out when you drop by.
if you don't see a return visit----face to face----for many months, that's not unusual.
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Sara Annie
I firmly believe that simply is no way to 'prove' to anyone in a high-control group that there is rampant hypocrisy and double-speak in what they are peddling.
I think most humans are born with an innate ability to reason out what makes sense and what does not--a sort of 'internal bullshit detector'. The problem with people who are completely immersed in a high-control organization is that this detector is systematically and purposefully disabled by the ideology of the group. Even in the face of undeniable, clearly presented arguments contrary to whatever position they are holding firm to, they simply cannot see that so much of what they deem wrong or wicked in others' beliefs are often exactly the same things that they feel are so righteous and undeniable in their own.
I have come to believe that the only way to plant a seed of doubt in someone who subscribes to a school of thought that declares anyone who is not a fellow believer to be the enemy is to consistently live and act in a manner that does not match the way they've been told that 'non-believers' live their lives. But for most people, even THAT won't work.
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So how do you explain this....
by loosie ini didn't want to hi jack this thread.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/95312/1.ashx.
but i wanted to open this up for discussion.
since being raised a jw, everything unexplainable has been attributed to demons.
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Sara Annie
But I wanted to open this up for discussion. Since being raised a JW, everything unexplainable has been attributed to demons. So how do normal people (by this I mean non JW), explain these unexplainable things? Like in Blondie's post ; the WTBS described getting the sheets pulled off of you in the middle of the night, noises that aren't right, electrical equipment being turned on by itself.
Anyone out there have some answers?
I would offer that things like that simply don't happen with any regularity to anyone, JW or not.
But it doesn't seem too difficult to explain why they are so popular amongst the JWs (or any high-control, self perceived persecuted group of people). When you're waging a war against evil, evil's gotta make an appearance now and then. Because if it doesn't, if there's no dramatic and exciting battle to recount about how Satan and his minions were thwarted by the power of God, how would you know that everything you believe, everything you've suffered, everything you've sacrificed it it's name, means anything? A good cautionary tale complete with danger and the super spooky "BOO" factor is a great way to keep the masses fighting the good fight.
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NO LONGER SATISFIED AS I WAS, WITH JWD FORUM
by outoftheorg inno this is not another { i am leaving this forum }.
it is just that i no longer am so hungry for the many posts as i once was.
i could not wait to get home and sign on to read all the posts from newbies and the heavy hitters.
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Sara Annie
Nothing--no matter how delicious, fascinating, or wondrous--is that way indefinitely. Attraction and infatuation ebb and flow in even the most passionate of relationships. But when the foundation is strong, when there's something beneath the day to day happenings and excitement (or lack thereof), it hardly matters that not every day is hearts and flowers and shooting stars.
Over the years I've come and gone--I've been a lurker and reader, a dedicated and prolific poster for a while, an occasional contributor, and a complete stranger. Sometimes it feels like coming home after a long vacation, others it feelslike I'm wandering through the hallways in a hotel I know I've been a guest in before, but I can't quite remember the stay. But no matter what, there's only one thing that really matters: I always come back. The things I've learned, the forum I've had to express myself, the opportunity to share what I feel and really learn what it is that I believe has been a truly unique experience for me. As long as the forum is here, I'll be checking in.
In the last few days I've been lurking about after a pronounced absence, and seeing the same old topics interspersed with new and timely threads convinces me that the purpose being served here is a good one--new people coming to examine the 'truth' and familiar faces staying around to reveal the truths they've found is exactly what this site has been about for me, and what I hope it will continue to be for anyone else who needs it.
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SPOILER * What did you all think of Harry Potter Half Blood Prince?
by Pwned ini just finished it today and i thought it was the best or second best yet.
i didnt like the last 2 that much but i really enjoyed this one.
it was cool to find out so much about voldermort's past.
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Sara Annie
On the whole, it wasn't the most well written of the six, but I did enjoy it.
We knew Dumbledore would have to die, and my husband and I even predicted it would happen at the end of book 6. That said, I was still not quite emotionally prepared for it when it happened (or the specific circumstances surrounding it).
I will say that it would incredibly foolish to believe that Snape's actions were those of a truly evil soul who bamboozled the greatest wizard who ever lived into trusting him. We've got theories coming out our ears, but the common thread in each of them is that Dumbledore knew exactly what was going to happen to him, and that everything that occurred was part of the plan. As any fan of the series knows, things are almost never what they appear on the surface to be.
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Crying at the movies
by Insomniac ini have a hard time expressing my emotions in front of others.
i mean, i'd rather be naked than to let anyone see me cry.
however, there are a few movies that can, in spite of my best efforts, make me bust out crying like a little girl: .
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Sara Annie
There are some movies that make me weep like a child:
1. The Shawshank Redemption--Although I did love Forrest Gump, I still say this movie got shafted at the Oscars that year.
2. Wit--The first time I saw this (heck, every time I've seen it) I cried so hard I was doing that ridiculous gasp for air thing that two year olds do when they're bawling so hard they can't breathe.
3. Pride and Prejudice (the A&E/BBC mini series collaboration.
4. Notting Hill--Yeah, it's sappy and romantic and trite in some respects but I love and won't apologize for it!
5. Sense and Sensibility
Oh heck, there are just too many to list.
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I could REALLY use some help right now....
by babygrl4903 inhey all,.
ok...i know for a fact that you have all probably heard this before but i am new here so i don't really know all the topics that have been discussed.
so, at the risk of repeating past topics.....here i go.... i am 16 years old and have a boyfriend who is a jw.
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Sara Annie
I am considering go back to my church and talking to the priest. Its been a long time but maybe it'll help me in my decision. The only thing I am thinking is that of course more than likely the priest is going to want me to stay catholic so of course he is going to be saying things to keep me in my current religion. What do ya'll think? Is it worth it or do you think it wouldn't really help me much? ....
What do you have to lose? Go and talk to him. If he does "say things to keep you in your current religion" it's a good lesson for you about the nature of religious agendas.
He may have some wonderful insights for you.
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I could REALLY use some help right now....
by babygrl4903 inhey all,.
ok...i know for a fact that you have all probably heard this before but i am new here so i don't really know all the topics that have been discussed.
so, at the risk of repeating past topics.....here i go.... i am 16 years old and have a boyfriend who is a jw.
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Sara Annie
I am religious, my partner is agnostic and it doesn't cause us a problem.
Sirona--
I think that combo would be fine, actually--it's sort of an absence of belief v. a belief system. It's when two strong belief systems butt heads that the real problems generally start. There are always exceptions, though.